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how can you pay yourself from your llc that's the question i'm going to answer in this long format video where i'll answer this question quickly and then go into the details some of the nuances of based on your entity type your structure your income and your projections for the future can affect your strategy about how to pay yourself from your llc or corporation i will discuss that a little bit later because it is possible that you have an llc that you're an owner of an llc but you make the election to be taxed as a corporation so you must understand the default treatment of paying yourself as a single member or multi-member llcs which is a standard llc per se or what if you make the election to be taxed as an s corporation or a c corporation we will discuss that in detail now there are three ways you can pay yourself from your llc one of them and the most typical one is called the owner's draw that's when you write yourself a check you don't make any tax withholdings the llc is paying you the owner or one of the owners a distribution check a draw against the profits of the business the other way you can pay yourself is with payroll pay yourself through a salary you will withhold taxes and you will have an entire system in place to pay yourself withhold taxes send those taxes to the government file forms and so forth and the third way you can pay yourself from your llc is called a dividend which has optional withholding you actually don't need to withhold on a dividend but you can if you want to now the entity type that you choose or how you structure your llc actually affects how these payments are made so let's talk about what the contents of today's videos we're going to discuss a lot of things in detail i gave you the three ways to do it but now i'm gonna explain the nuances that you need to apply to your situation to figure out how you're gonna pay yourself so first we're gonna discuss the difference between owner's draw payroll salary and dividends which we just talked about then we're going to go into the detail of each entity type and i want you to think about an llc as of being potentially one of four entity types it can be all four of them it can be two of them it can only be one so you're gonna make the election based on your situation so the default way an llc is when it has a single owner is called a single member llc pretty easy to remember you're going to file 1040 in your schedule c if you don't you do your own taxes that's something your accountant worries about but you want to know how to pay yourself if you happen to have a single member llc we're going to start discussing that in detail secondly we'll talk about calculating the liability single member llcs don't pay taxes multi-member llcs don't pay taxes it is the owners of the llcs that pay the taxes in representation of the llc so we're going to discuss more or less how the liability is calculated then we're going to move on to multi-member llc that's an llc that is owned by two or more people this this you you will use form 1065 again if you don't file your own tax returns something for your your tax accountant to worry about this is often called a partnership this is the traditional naming convention that we use for association of two or more people doing business together which is basically what an llc potentially is when it has more than one owner so in the tax return it's actually called a partnership even though legally is called an llc now we're going to discuss the the third entity type which is an llc that made the election to be taxed as an s corporation which would file form 1120 s on the tax return and then we're going to discuss the fourth type which is llcs that elect to be taxed as c corporations and c corporations file with form 1120. again if you don't file your own returns something for your accountant to worry about this video is focused around how you're going to pay yourself and the last thing i want to discuss here is multiple entity issues this is for people that have more than one llc or a combination llc s corp c-corp multi-member single member so when there's combinations of things we're going to discuss kind of not so much tax strategies but some of the structure that is allowed when you have multiple entities so let's dive right in now depending on how you pay yourself the tax of pay the the type of payment actually affects the type of form you're required to file to the irs so for example if you have a single member llc and you pay yourself an owner's draw there's actually no reporting requirements when you report the income and expenses of your single member llc that's going to go in your in your personal tax return and the amount you paid yourself or didn't pay yourself is not reportable only thing you report is income and expenses so single member llc easy nothing to worry about if you didn't make any special elections there's no reporting requirements you just have to in your schedule c put your income and expenses and that's it now if you have a multi-member llc this is an llc with more than one owner you are going to have a form called the k1 which goes inside your partnership tax return or the form 1065 that we talked about and in that form you're actually going to see the reported amount of draws or distributions that you took so there will be a beginning balance of the capital you put into the business there will be an increase or decrease in capital based on the profits and then the decrease the final decrease in capital based on how many draws you took out what's interesting about this we'll discuss this a little bit in detail is because there's multiple owners every owner gets the k1 and every owner has its own calculation on those owner drops we'll discuss that a little bit more detail let's talk about payroll salary so typically only when somebody has a corporation an s corporation or a c corporation they start worrying about paying themselves through payroll we'll discuss it in detail this is actually a requirement a minimum requirement on s-corporations and it's sort of quasi-optional on c-corporations we'll discuss what that means and if you have an llc you may have made the election to be taxed as an s corporation or a c corporation so if you made the election you must pay yourself at least a big chunk of that payment through payroll via aw2 that's the form that ultimately gets reported to the irs that represents the amount you pay yourself to payroll with s corporations you can have both you got payroll and owner's draw or distributions with c corporations you can have both payroll and something called a dividend a dividend is only for c corporations and there's a form is a 1099 hyphen div which is the one the corporation or the llc converted to a corporation for tax purposes needs to file at the end of the year to let the irs know that this owner received some dividends so based again as we talked about earlier based on the entity type the way you pay yourself and the way you report what you pay yourself and as we dig deeper the way you pay taxes on how you pay yourself all changes now i want to make a quick no
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are you and your business partner wondering how you should be paying yourself and your multi-member LLC today I'm going to explain to you exactly what you need to do the five steps you need to take to make sure that both you and your business partner can sleep better at night knowing that your LLC is properly taken care of and that you're each being paid adequately based on your work in the business that sound good let's do it are you looking for legal guidance and practical business tips without spending thousands of dollars on high-priced lawyers and law firms hi my name is Jim Hart and the founding attorney here at Hawthorn law we help online businesses and small business owners to protect their business without spending a small fortune in both time and money so that you can focus on what matters most and that's building something that truly matters in the world if you're interested in legally protecting your business and building it the right way then go ahead and click the subscribe button down below and don't forget to hit the little bell thing so that you can notify when we publish new videos each and every week and also especially for this video if you are in business with somebody else which I'm sure you are you wouldn't be watching this video make sure you share this video and my channel with your business partner so that both of you can be on the same page about how it is that you need to run your business legally to make sure things are in order so today I want to talk to those of you that are in business or somebody else about what you need to do to protect yourself and your business when it comes time to pay yourself this is a really hot emotional topic for a lot of businesses when there are multi members of that LLC now if you're not in business with somebody else if you have a single member LLC which means that you're in business by yourself and you want to check out my other video on how to pay yourself in your single member LLC I just updated it for 2019 so link up there now if you are in business for somebody else you know how hard it can be it's basically like marriage without sex unless that is that you're in business with your spouse in which case you're a single member LLC in the eyes of law you may not have known that but you are so espoused to spouses together that's still a single member LLC that's not a partnership I bet you didn't know that did you so for the rest of you who've decided to go into business with somebody that is not your spouse this could be a boyfriend or girl this could be a colleague professionally or personally this could be a friend this could be a family member this could be somebody you met in college or university this video is for you whomever it is that you're in business with you need to make sure that the two of you are on the same page about how you're going to pay yourself with your multi-member LLC this is an incredibly important decision that you need to make you need to be an agreement about how and when each of you are going to get paid and how much you're going to get paid if you can't agree on this it's going to lead to a lot of infighting between you with the business it's going to lead to problems regarding how you're going to be spending the money in the business it's going to lead to a lot of animosity between the two of you and and ultimately it could tear down both your friendship if you were friends before you got into business and it could turn her down the business itself which is a problem and that's something that you want to avoid I'm sure so obviously there's a lot at stake here by the end of today's video I'm going to talk to you about the five things that you need to include in your operating agreement to make sure that all these things don't happen for you and your business but before we get to that quick water break today again I don't have my coffee into water from my mega tub by the way I love these things I don't know if you know but this is like a Yeti knockoff and these things keep your water cold for hours even if it's in a hot car amazing so in many of my videos I talked about the importance of having a solid operating agreement and that is never more important than when we're talking about a situation where you have a multi-member LLC now I say multi-member LLC but this could also be a corporation with multiple shareholders it doesn't necessarily have to be an LLC or it could just be a general partnership where you have any reformed a corporate entity but you have multiple partners in the business basically the idea of the operating agreement here is that you need to agree to all these things before you start operating business it's kind of like again I'm gonna go back to the the analogy of a marriage having a prenuptial agreement before you get into the marriage to make sure the marriage goes south that you know how you're gonna handle things now if you are a single member LLC you don't need to spend a whole lot of time on this because if you ever need to make a change the operating agreement you just make the change it's it's a it's a living breathing document that can change as as times change but if you are a multi-member LLC and you want to make a change to your operating agreement you need to think long and hard about how you're going to do that because there's somebody else on the other side that might have a say in whether or not you want to make a change to that agreement and that's your business partner in the course of a multi-member LLC you can't just change the agreement anytime you want all of you need to agree and that's why it's important to get these things down at the outset so here are some of the main issues that you're going to need to face when negotiating an operating agreement for a multi-member LLC and this is specifically in regards to what you need to do in terms of getting paid there are a bunch of other issues that you're going to need to negotiate but these are the most important issues you're going to need to deal with when you're talking about how you and your business partners are going to get paid ideally you would agree to all these issues before you number one invest money into the business or to start actually operating the business sometimes that's not possible some of you are probably watching this video and you've been operating for years and now you're wondering what you need to do well you need to get operating agreement in place as soon as possible before there are any problems with your business so let's go through these five issues that you need to deal with real quick number one how are you going to get paid are you going to have a set salary or you're gonna get paid based on a percentage of revenue or are you going to get paid when the business is profitable are you gonna get paid based on commissions how are each of you going to get paid that is the number one decision you need to make the second option is pay split how are you going to divide up the pay are you gonna be paid each 50/50 or you each equal gonna be taking equal draws from the business or are you gonna be doing something else third opt
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- Brandi Depaola
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I've studied christianity at Benjamin Franklin Institute of Technology in Boston and I am an expert in english studies. I usually feel mellow. My previous job was loan interviewers and clerks I held this position for 29 years, I love talking about airsoft and observing birds. Huge fan of Fetty Wap I practice tennis and collect sports cards.
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