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welcome back to taxes made simple i'm your host carl and dennis in today's video we're going to be discussing how to reduce your taxes with an llc many people form llcs to limit their liability and prevent financial disasters in the event of a lawsuit or another difficult financial event occurring in their businesses while llcs can provide highly beneficial protection to business owners in the event of some of these circumstances switching to an s corporation can actually provide you with tax benefits that llcs can't yes that's right you might get to keep more of your hard-earned money your cash in your pocket by upgrading your llc to an s corporation and i want you to know why so let's dive in in order to understand how to reduce your taxes by switching from an llc to an s corp you first have to understand what the default taxation rules are for llcs for starters if you have a single member llc the irs treats you as a sole proprietor for tax purposes now taxpayer this means that the llc itself is not taxed and you will only have to pay taxes on the profits you make with the llc throughout the year not the llc and then you it's all you if you happen to have a multi-member llc by chance then the irs considers your llc to be a partnership and each member pays taxes based on his or hers own ownership percentage of that business now if your llc has three members for example each member would pay their equal share that means each partner would pay taxes on one third of the profits of the business each year but one thing to understand though is that if i'm a taxpayer that has other forms of income or my own spouse i may have a different tax liability than my other partners so just know that you each will have your own individual tax liabilities in multi-member llcs the llc itself still does not pay any taxes just like single member llcs but whether you have a single member llc or a multi-member llc the llc is considered a pass through entity and if you're new to my channel welcome you will learn all about pass through entities just by flicking through a couple of the videos i have on my youtube channel i talk about pass-through entities all of the time because pass-through entities are the usual entity that most taxpayers will set up initially general partnerships are passed through sole proprietorships are passed through single member llc's are passed through multi-member llc's are passed through as corporations are passed through c corporations are not passed through so it's important for us to understand all of these entities that are passed through entities the llc is considered a pass-through entity for tax purposes by the irs this means that the taxes pass through the llc directly to the owners so you are responsible for paying the taxes if you happen to have an llc although the llc does not pay any taxes itself all of the owners of the llc have to pay self-employment tax which can get quite expensive in fact the self-employment tax is 15.3 which is a tax made up of 12.4 being social security and 2.9 being medicare taxes that we have to pay into also retirement contributions are often limited to llc owners now before we continue i wanted to let you know i am a big big believer in investing whether it's generally for building wealth or if it's simply just investing into my own retirement accounts to make sure i can retire comfortably and as important as it is to save money on your taxes which i know is why you're all here it is also important to invest your savings if you really want to make money work for yourself long term now i know the challenges that come with being new to investing such as asking yourself where do i even start or simply not having the time because you're too busy running around doing your business or living your life and i don't blame you which is why i want to introduce you guys to wealthfront okay wealthfront is an easy to use application which helps you invest and build income passively here is how it works on the application they will ask you a series of questions to determine your risk tolerance and what your financial objectives are they will recommend a diversified portfolio that will be tailored to your specific needs and the financial goals that you list out to them now the cool thing about wealthfront is they also look for ways to reduce your taxes through tax loss harvesting because let's face it it's our goal to reduce the amount of money that we're currently paying to uncle sam and they also are offering retirement accounts on their platform right now you can get your first five thousand dollars managed for free with my link in my description and after that it's only a super low point 25 annual advisory fee now let's get back to this video so how can i reduce taxes with my llc the number one way to reduce your taxes within llc is to change your llc to an s corporation taxpayer i hope you're waking up right now because i'm going to give you this information i'm going to give it to you in a format that you can understand you can go take this information to your cpa your tax advisor your tax professional and let them know carlton said he knows when to change the llc to an s corporation carlton has changed thousands and thousands of llcs corporations i do not take this conversation lightly and cpas don't like to give this information away why because they can charge you for it so let's talk a little bit more about it an s corporation is a type of corporation in which the owners are considered to be employees of the business that's right you're an employee and now of your business you're eliminating some of all these damn employee taxes that everybody plays into employee taxes are self-employment taxes and i never strictly have said that directly to you on this channel but i'm going to say it to you now if you're self-employed you're paying self-employment taxes but if you're employed by somebody you're paying employee taxes which is similar to self-employment taxes by the self-employed individual the self-employed individual has to pay the employee taxes on all of their income and it hurts the llc owners why couldn't they just pay it on the income that they wanted to pay themselves because llc owners are not employees and now we're going to learn the differences between the llc and the s corporation the way that this works is that the owners of the company pay themselves a reasonable salary by doing this the owners of an s corp will only have to pay self-employment taxes on the salary that they are claiming for the rest of the money which they can take out in distributions that money is not going to be subject to self-employment tax it is not going to be subject to 15.3 percent that's a high percentage that you're not going to face on all of your businesses income that llc owners all have to pay into so this is super important to me if you don't walk away with anything else on my channel you will walk away knowing who pays self-employment tax and who pays the least amount of self-employment tax so we covered that s corporations owners will have to take a salary but for the rest of the money which they
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chris is with us cleveland ohio hi chris what's up hi dave thanks for taking my call i'll try to be as brief as possible um my question is my wife and i over the last two and a half years have really focused in on the steps and have been in the situation where now we financially were able to pay off the house last fall we have no credit card debt and it seems to me at this point where our income levels are she had recently gotten promoted about two years ago that now we're getting just absolutely at the end of the year crushed and having to write big checks for taxes and i guess my question is i mean is is potentially looking into an llc with some rental properties even something that should be on the table to even look at well an llc doesn't change the taxes at all you can own the rental property in your personal name yeah well tax wise it doesn't change the taxes one bit protection wise it's good to put rental property in there from a risk management standpoint somebody falls and breaks their face on that property then they can sue only the owner of that property which happens to not be you have to be an llc so they don't come take your personal vehicle so from a risk management standpoint i no longer own anything i'm completely poor a company that i own owns everything you know so i've got this stack of llc's it's ridiculous my cars are even owned by llc's now so uh but that's just because you know i'm now i'm at a point that i'm a target for lawsuits uh because it's like oh dave ramsey bumped into my car you know so it's easier than winning the lottery who needed a job so um anyway but you're not gonna quite be that way with one rental property of course we're gonna tell you to pay cash for the rental property or not buy it and don't do things that don't make economic sense only for tax reasons okay and if you get tired of paying taxes and mad about paying taxes like i have and like you are you can go that way and i have found myself tempted to enter into things that really don't make any sense except the fact that they are a huge tax write-off and so i i don't do i would rather just give it a charity and then you can write it off you know then i would go lose it and do something bogus that gets me in a bind later in order to get a write-off so as long as you're paying cash for the rental yeah throw it in an llc for risk management doesn't change taxes same depreciation schedule either way it's all passed through on an llc it still lands on your personal return doesn't change the stinking thing as far as that goes but yeah it's okay to start talking about doing that um and it is one of the benefits of owning some real estate and i'd talk with a tax pro if you don't have one already you can jump onto ramseysolutions.com but working with one of those elps they can look at your whole situation and go oh here's a spot you missed here's a spot we can save you on taxes here's how to lower your taxable income so that could help if you're not already working with a pro yeah and this idea that the rich don't pay taxes um is 98 hogwash i pay so much in taxes i can't breathe i pay more in taxes in a year than i made in the first 10 years of my working life wow i mean so the idea that rich don't pay taxes absolutely and i'm really good at this stuff so it's just asinine that you know well warren buffett's secretary pays at a higher rate than he does yeah he lives off capital gains which is a 15 rate but it's 15 of a billion and he's not he the only thing he has are investments he has no earned income only investments so at a higher rate yes but the secretary doesn't have a billion dollars that she's living off of and so she's paying ordinary income so that's just a bogus argument too well that's not fair it's absolutely fair it's the tax code sorry boys and girls
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