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are you and your business partner wondering how you should be paying yourself and your multi-member LLC today I'm going to explain to you exactly what you need to do the five steps you need to take to make sure that both you and your business partner can sleep better at night knowing that your LLC is properly taken care of and that you're each being paid adequately based on your work in the business that sound good let's do it are you looking for legal guidance and practical business tips without spending thousands of dollars on high-priced lawyers and law firms hi my name is Jim Hart and the founding attorney here at Hawthorn law we help online businesses and small business owners to protect their business without spending a small fortune in both time and money so that you can focus on what matters most and that's building something that truly matters in the world if you're interested in legally protecting your business and building it the right way then go ahead and click the subscribe button down below and don't forget to hit the little bell thing so that you can notify when we publish new videos each and every week and also especially for this video if you are in business with somebody else which I'm sure you are you wouldn't be watching this video make sure you share this video and my channel with your business partner so that both of you can be on the same page about how it is that you need to run your business legally to make sure things are in order so today I want to talk to those of you that are in business or somebody else about what you need to do to protect yourself and your business when it comes time to pay yourself this is a really hot emotional topic for a lot of businesses when there are multi members of that LLC now if you're not in business with somebody else if you have a single member LLC which means that you're in business by yourself and you want to check out my other video on how to pay yourself in your single member LLC I just updated it for 2019 so link up there now if you are in business for somebody else you know how hard it can be it's basically like marriage without sex unless that is that you're in business with your spouse in which case you're a single member LLC in the eyes of law you may not have known that but you are so espoused to spouses together that's still a single member LLC that's not a partnership I bet you didn't know that did you so for the rest of you who've decided to go into business with somebody that is not your spouse this could be a boyfriend or girl this could be a colleague professionally or personally this could be a friend this could be a family member this could be somebody you met in college or university this video is for you whomever it is that you're in business with you need to make sure that the two of you are on the same page about how you're going to pay yourself with your multi-member LLC this is an incredibly important decision that you need to make you need to be an agreement about how and when each of you are going to get paid and how much you're going to get paid if you can't agree on this it's going to lead to a lot of infighting between you with the business it's going to lead to problems regarding how you're going to be spending the money in the business it's going to lead to a lot of animosity between the two of you and and ultimately it could tear down both your friendship if you were friends before you got into business and it could turn her down the business itself which is a problem and that's something that you want to avoid I'm sure so obviously there's a lot at stake here by the end of today's video I'm going to talk to you about the five things that you need to include in your operating agreement to make sure that all these things don't happen for you and your business but before we get to that quick water break today again I don't have my coffee into water from my mega tub by the way I love these things I don't know if you know but this is like a Yeti knockoff and these things keep your water cold for hours even if it's in a hot car amazing so in many of my videos I talked about the importance of having a solid operating agreement and that is never more important than when we're talking about a situation where you have a multi-member LLC now I say multi-member LLC but this could also be a corporation with multiple shareholders it doesn't necessarily have to be an LLC or it could just be a general partnership where you have any reformed a corporate entity but you have multiple partners in the business basically the idea of the operating agreement here is that you need to agree to all these things before you start operating business it's kind of like again I'm gonna go back to the the analogy of a marriage having a prenuptial agreement before you get into the marriage to make sure the marriage goes south that you know how you're gonna handle things now if you are a single member LLC you don't need to spend a whole lot of time on this because if you ever need to make a change the operating agreement you just make the change it's it's a it's a living breathing document that can change as as times change but if you are a multi-member LLC and you want to make a change to your operating agreement you need to think long and hard about how you're going to do that because there's somebody else on the other side that might have a say in whether or not you want to make a change to that agreement and that's your business partner in the course of a multi-member LLC you can't just change the agreement anytime you want all of you need to agree and that's why it's important to get these things down at the outset so here are some of the main issues that you're going to need to face when negotiating an operating agreement for a multi-member LLC and this is specifically in regards to what you need to do in terms of getting paid there are a bunch of other issues that you're going to need to negotiate but these are the most important issues you're going to need to deal with when you're talking about how you and your business partners are going to get paid ideally you would agree to all these issues before you number one invest money into the business or to start actually operating the business sometimes that's not possible some of you are probably watching this video and you've been operating for years and now you're wondering what you need to do well you need to get operating agreement in place as soon as possible before there are any problems with your business so let's go through these five issues that you need to deal with real quick number one how are you going to get paid are you going to have a set salary or you're gonna get paid based on a percentage of revenue or are you going to get paid when the business is profitable are you gonna get paid based on commissions how are each of you going to get paid that is the number one decision you need to make the second option is pay split how are you going to divide up the pay are you gonna be paid each 50/50 or you each equal gonna be taking equal draws from the business or are you gonna be doing something else third opt
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- Floyd Vanmarter, Staff Member
how's it going everybody welcome back taxes made simple the channel where i demystify tax information to make taxes simple and stress-free welcome back in in today's video we're going to be going over the difference between single member versus multi-member llc's that's right there are several different types of llcs and i know you guys are aware of that and each have their own rules and tax obligations and if you are thinking about starting an llc you need to know whether or not it makes sense to have a single member or if you should be setting up a multi-member and getting into partnership with somebody maybe the government views single member llc's different than they view multi-member llc's single member llc's are actually disregarded entities are you sure you want a disregarded entity learn more come on in and i'd like to take a moment to thank taylor brands for sponsoring this video more on them later right guys before we jump into the differences between single member and multi-member llc's let's go over a quick refresher of what llcs are so we all have the same understanding llc stands for limited liability company a limited liability company is just a type of business structure that limits the liability for the business owners that's all it is okay what this means is is that the llc's if the business incurs large debts that are called in or is sued the owners of the business cannot be personally held liable for the debts of the business only the business can be held liable and only the businesses assets are at stake this is opposed to other business structures such as sole proprietors in which business owners can be held personally liable for lawsuits or the company's debts now before we continue this video i'd like to briefly talk about the many challenges new entrepreneurs face when starting a new business being an entrepreneur myself i remember running into a lot of challenges trying to figure out who is going to set up my llc who is going to create my website who is going to create my logo who is going to run my email marketing i had all of these different hats that i had to wear and the list goes on and on and on as many of you guys know time is money so why not work smarter than harder this is why i want to introduce you guys to taylor brands right now taylor brands is the one stop shop for all aspiring business owners because taylor brands offers everything from logo making they can offer your domain a website creation a business card printed for you merchandising and now they even provide llc services all on their website so it makes it truly a one-stop shop making it super easy for any new business owner who's getting launched an easy way for them to get launched for an affordable price right now taylor brands is only charging about 3.99 so spending money with them and doing research is how you can get your business off the ground and brand yourself correctly if you're interested in learning more visit the link below let's get back to this video okay now that we've done a little quick refresher on llc's let's talk about single member llcs and multi-member llc's a single member llc first is an llc in which one person has complete control over full ownership of that llc however the llc is still considered its own legal entity separate from the owner owners of these type of businesses they do not have to worry about their personal bank accounts their personal houses cars retirement accounts savings accounts etc being seized to pay for a debt or reliability of the business this provides single member llc owners with a level of insulation from the risks associated with their businesses so this liability limitation is essential for helping single member llc owners to feel confident enough to conduct business and to take certain risks that are necessary for the expansion of business or else we would probably not see as many business owners we have today for example without liability limitations a business owner might not feel comfortable enough to take a 50 000 loan to grow his business because he might be worried that he will have to end up paying this back if something were to go south or he might have to give up at his house in order to cover the debt if everything goes south with the business but with limited liability protection of a single more llc he might feel secure enough to take the risk which might be vital to taking his business to the next level and having this protection is especially important for single member llc owners because they run their businesses by themselves without any other partners this is because they would have to shoulder the full burdens and debts and liabilities of the businesses themselves if something were to go wrong with the company in such a case they wouldn't have any partners to help them for tax purposes guys single member llcs are considered pass-through entities this means that the taxes pass through the llc directly to the owner meaning the owner is the only one taxed once for his or her income through the llc and the llc is not taxed separately okay senior member llc owners are required to pay self-employment taxes on their taxable income welcome to my channel and multi-member llc owners are too now let's talk a little bit more though about the multi-member llc because multi-member llc's are completely different than single member llcs it clearly means you have multiple members multi-member llc's can have unlimited amount of owners so two people could form a multi-member llc together 10 people can form a multi-member llc together a thousand people could form a multi-member llc together and etc when it comes to forming either a single or multi-member llc in america most states are very open about who can form one for example all the following people that i'm about to list can form either a single member or a multi-member llc in most states in america if you're one a sovereign citizen two a non-us citizen three a non-us resident or for you are another llc or a corporation multi-member llcs are either member managed or manager managed and what i mean by that is member managed llcs are multi-member llc's in which all of the members are responsible for running the business together and a majority approval is required to enter into contracts into securing loans or just making other legal binding decisions this is a member managed llc a manager managed llc are multiple member llc's in which one person or a number of people acts as managers for the business and are responsible for running it managers can be members of the llc or third parties just like single member llc's just like single member llcs multi-member llcs limit liability for the llc owners and protect them from being held personally liable if there is a lawsuit or if there is a major debt that is owed by the company that is called in now it is important to note that both multi-member llc owners and single member llc owners can be held personally responsible if they commit a criminal act such as fraud or embezzlement so just because you have limited liability if you own an llc does not make you exempt from following the l
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- Floyd Vanmarter
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I've studied public anthropology at Adelphi University in Garden City and I am an expert in commutative algebra. I usually feel moody. My previous job was legal assistant I held this position for 11 years, I love talking about fencing and go-karting. Huge fan of Calvin Harris I practice high bar and collect handbags.
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