LLC classified as s corp [You Asked]

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Why should an LLC file as an S corp?

An S corporation usually does not pay federal taxes at the corporate level. As a result, an S corporation can help the owner save money on corporate taxes. The S corporation allows the owner to report the taxes on their personal tax return, similar to an LLC or sole proprietorship.

Should my LLC be an S corp?

Although being taxed like an S corporation is probably chosen the least often by small business owners, it is an option. For some LLCs and their owners, this can actually provide a tax savings, particularly if the LLC operates an active trade or business and the payroll taxes on the owner or owners is high.

Is an LLC a corporation or S corp?

As we explained above, an S corp. is a tax classification, while an LLC is a business entity. This means that an LLC can attain S corp. status if it meets certain criteria. However, LLCs and S corporations require different management and shareholder structures and have unique reporting requirements.

How do I know if my LLC is C or S?

Call the IRS Business Assistance Line at 800-829-4933. The IRS can review your business file to see if your company is a C corporation or S corporation based on any elections you may have made and the type of income tax returns you file.

What happens when you convert an LLC to an S Corp?

An LLC can also elect to be taxed as an S corporation, even if it only has one owner. Electing S corp. taxation doesn't convert your business structure from an LLC to a corporation. It simply changes the way you file and pay taxes and handle owner income.

What is the best tax classification for an LLC?

The best tax classification for an LLC depends on whether you want your business profits to be taxed at your personal income tax rate, or at the corporate tax rate. If you'd prefer personal tax rates, you can classify it as a disregarded entity or as a partnership. Otherwise, you can classify it as a corporation.

What are the 3 types of LLC?

Single-member LLC for the sole-proprietorship (solo entrepreneur)
Multi-member LLC (member-managed LLC or manager-member LLC)
Domestic LLC and Foreign LLC.
Series LLC.
L3C Company (low-profit LLC)
Anonymous LLC.
Restricted LLC.
PLLC and LLC.

Should a single-member LLC file as an S corp?

It is beneficial for an LLC to elect S corp status if it is profitable and its owners are required to pay large amounts of self-employment taxes, such as Social Security and Medicare taxes. As the owner of a single-member LLC with S corp status, you are not regarded as a self-employed person.

How do I change the tax classification of my LLC?

The Form 8832 is also filed to change the LLC's entity classification. Thus, an LLC that has been treated as a partnership for several years may be able to prospectively change its classification to be treated as a corporation by filing Form 8832.

What does LLCs Corp mean?

An LLC is a legal business structure while S corporation is a tax classification that's available to some small businesses. Both LLCs and corporations can elect S-corp taxation by filing a form with the IRS. When starting a business, it's important to evaluate your options from both a legal and a tax perspective.

What is the difference between a single member LLC and an S corp?

So the main difference is with a single-member LLC, only the business owner can report business profit/loss on their personal taxes, whereas in an S-Corp, all shareholders can. When starting a small business, many entrepreneurs end up deciding between two types of business entitiesâ€”LLC vs. S-corp.

Does an LLC taxed as an S corp get a 1099?

An LLC that is an S Corporation does not need to receive a 1099 form. However, there are a few specific types of payments made to corporations by your business, including payments to S Corporations, which would require you to report the payment on an S Corporation 1099: Box 6: Medical and health care payments.

How do I know if my business is an S corp?

Be a domestic corporation.
Have only allowable shareholders.
Have no more than 100 shareholders.
Have only one class of stock.

When can I change from LLC to S corp?

In general, you'll want to consider converting from an LLC, partnership or sole proprietorship to an S-corp when your profits are greater than the amount that you'd reasonably expect to pay in owner salaries.

Who pays more taxes S corp or C Corp?

If your company is making a profit and you want to take some of that money out of the company, it's generally cheaper to do so as an S corp than a C corp. But note that in some cases, the personal income tax rate paid by S corp shareholders will be higher than the corporate income tax rate.

Can an LLC be treated as an S corp?

An LLC can choose to be treated as an S corporation in a two-step process: File a Form 8832, Entity Classification Election. This causes the business to be taxed as a C corporation. Then file a Form 2553 to elect an S corporation tax structure.

What are the benefits of having an S corp?

Protected assets. An S corporation protects the personal assets of its shareholders.
Pass-through taxation.
Tax-favorable characterization of income.
Straightforward transfer of ownership.
Cash method of accounting.
Heightened credibility.

What is S corp tax rate?

What is the tax rate for S corporations? The annual tax for S corporations is the greater of 1.5% of the corporation's net income or $800. Note: As of January 1, 2000, newly incorporated or qualified corporations are exempt from the annual minimum franchise tax for their first year of business.

How does an LLC avoid paying taxes?

A general Corporation making a Subchapter â€œSâ€ Election or an LLC with or without a Subchapter S Election pays no federal tax on its taxable income and no employment taxes on its distributions to stockholders.

Which is better an LLC or S Corp?

LLC owners must pay self-employment taxes for all income. S corp owners may pay less on this tax, provided they pay themselves a â€œreasonable salary.â€ LLCs can have unlimited members, while S corps are limited to 100 shareholders.

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Comment by Joesph Myres

if you run your own business or maybe you're just starting out or confused about the distinctions between an LLC and an escort or escorts in general you're in the right place I'm Tony from the really useful information company and in this video we're gonna talk about what an S corporation or S Corp is the benefits of an S corp the complications and potential drawbacks and finally how to decide whether or not choosing an S corp is right for you the following information is for educational purposes this is not legal tax or financial advice before acting on any of this information consult with a registered accountant to begin an S corporation or S corp is not a formal business structure it's a tax classification both an LLC and a corporation can choose to be taxed as an escort for simplicity in this video we will focus solely on LLC's that choose to become S corporations there are single member LLC's and multi member LLC's and both can become escorts and LLC terms a member is an owner LLC members are not employees in fact members cannot be employees in tax terms this means members are not paid a salary they still work of course but they are paid in what are known as distributions when an LLC chooses to be taxed as an S corp it allows members to be paid a salary as well as a distribution and this is where it gets interesting because salaries and distributions in an S corp are taxed differently well look at these important differences in just a moment but before we do we should first have a look at a few restrictions as corporations F S corporations must not have more than 100 shareholders the shareholders must be US citizens or permanent legal residents the shareholders must be private individuals and may not include LLC's other corporations or certain types of trusts and finally s corpse can only issue one class of stock if these restrictions work for you keep watching to see why or why not you may want to seek S corp class vacation so we now know that an S corp allows the members of an LLC to be treated as employees and earned both a salary and distributions before we look at the details of how these are taxed differently let's be clear about something the IRS wants to collect employment taxes they want to collect employment tax and they want to collect income tax let's look at how they do that in different scenarios first if you have a single member LLC you are taxed by default as a disregarded entity money passes through the LLC to you you cannot be an employee so your income is in the form of a distribution that distribution is subject to employment tax and income tax a multi-member LLC taxed by default as a partnership works the same way the income passes through is paid as distributions and those distributions are subject to employment tax and income tax if an LLC successfully becomes an escort then the members can be employees the income generated is paid to the members both as a salary and a distribution the salary is subject to employment tax and income tax the distribution however is only subject to income tax you do not have to pay employment tax on a distribution in an S corp and this is how you can potentially save money employment tax is around 15% and as stated the IRS is going to collect it but an S corp allows you to limit that employment tax to a reasonable salary amount while the rest of your income paid in the form of a distribution is only subject to income tax thus the main benefit of an S corp is that it saves you from paying self-employment tax on distributions now let's look at the drawbacks and complications there are three complications that may be drawbacks s corpse now that we know the benefits let's consider these three reasons you might not want to form an escort the first is salary the term used by the IRS is reasonable salary and this is the amount that as a member of the LLC turned S corp you will pay yourself in addition to distributions you must choose a reasonable salary as if you are hiring another person to do your job you can research this amount on sites like last or com but ultimately you are responsible for choosing this salary amount and the IRS has increased scrutiny of escort member of salaries if you pay yourself an unreasonably low salary whether by mistake or in an effort to pay less employment tax the IRS may take notice and engage your S corp status demanding back taxes and fines so be mindful when determining your reasonable salary secondly while the potential savings of an escort basically 15% of your distribution can be significant the reality of an S corp is that it requires more work there's an expenditure of effort on your part in terms of running payroll organizing a more complicated tax withholdings and so on and this increased complexity is going to require the cost and effort of a professional accountant we estimate the approximate added cost of properly running an S corp to be between one and two thousand dollars a year if the money you are saving not paying employment tax and this distribution is less than this amount it's probably not worth it specifically if your distribution is not more than ten thousand dollars it's not really worth the cost an effort of maintaining an S corp and finally there's the consideration of reinvestment if your company is successful and you know you're going to have a surplus of revenue you can choose what to do with that money some of the choices are suited for S corp and others not so much generally speaking an S corp will serve you best if you know you're going to make a lot of money in the form of distribution and you want to take all that money out of the LLC to pay yourself if that is the case an S corp is a good choice and will allow you to save employment tax on that large district however if you make a surplus of income and when I reinvest that amount into the company in the same year you made the money you are better off staying in LLC this will avoid unnecessary income and employment taxes lastly if you have surplus revenue that you want to carry over and reinvest into the company but not immediately perhaps over several years you may be best suited by a traditional corporation which is taxed as AC Corp let's keep this simple the main factor to consider is whether or not you have sufficient profit to justify escort classification if your distribution after paying yourself a reasonable salary is greater than ten thousand dollars you have sufficient profit to justify the cost and effort of an escort if you don't know how much profit your LLC is going to make it is pointless to become an escort to start off you can always change your tax status later if you know for certain you will have sufficient profit secondly escorts are a great choice if your intent is to withdraw all the profit from the company rather than reinvesting if you have other plans to reinvest your company profit LLC default tax status or C Corp classification may be more cost effective we hope this video has provided you with useful and actionable information regarding your LLC and your understanding of the S corporation tax classification we offer this as educational

Thanks for your comment Joesph Myres, have a nice day.
- Jonas Innis, Staff Member

Comment by Miquel

in this video i'm going to discuss four scenarios in which you do not want your business to be taxed as an s-corporation that's right you heard me right i said not be taxed as an s-corporation there's so many videos out there promoting the s-corporation and why it's so great and it is it can save you a lot of money in self-employment taxes but you must also know what the drawbacks are it doesn't fit every single business owner out there so i'm going to touch on the following four scenarios one is how much profit should you be earning in your business before it makes financial sense to have your business taxed as an s corporation the second one would be how large amounts of w income sorry w-2 income rather can negate the tax savings of an s-corporation so by w-2 income i mean you are employed by an employer and actually like have a job that you earn money at what happens when your state that you live in does not recognize the s corporation or perhaps they tax the s corporation and lastly why passive income such as buy and hold rental real estate should not be taxed as an s corporation so if this is your first time watching my name is navi mirage i'm a cpa who helps real estate professionals that's real estate agents and realtors and brokers across the country save thousands of dollars in taxes but um that said if you are a regular business owner and you don't deal with real estate stick around because this bus this video is going to apply to all small businesses um let me just lay that lay the foundation for you a moment uh we're talking about when the s corporation may not make financial sense right and so before watching this video some of you may want to brush up on the different differences between what a sole proprietor is an llc an s corp and a c corporation and i have another video on that topic so if you're not quite understanding what i mean by an s corp or how an llc is taxed as an s corp or a corporation a c corporation that is can be taxed as an s corporation you might want to watch those videos first and i'll link them either in the description or somewhere else depending on where you're watching this video as a refresher though from some of those videos and me diving deeper into the s corporation remember that the profit from your business is subject to two different types of tax right so the profit from your business is subject to self-employment taxes and it's subject to income taxes both both at the federal and state level okay self-employment taxes are another way of saying social security and medicare taxes okay the s corp strategy is all about saving money in self-employment taxes it doesn't have anything to do really with the federal income tax or the state income tax so whenever you hear s-corp understand that it's a strategy related to saving money in self-employment taxes and not so much federal income taxes or state income taxes recall that self-employment taxes are paid at a rate of 15.3 percent on the profit of your business so let's say you have a very profitable business that has a hundred thousand dollars in profit you're gonna pay self-employment taxes of fifteen thousand three hundred dollars if you're taxed as a sole proprietor and not taxed as an s corporation okay so now that you have that knowledge or that foundation let's talk about the reasons why you should not be taxed as an s corporation so i'm just going to hit the highlights here in this video uh my plan is to create subsequent videos that dive into these topics in greater detail so be sure to subscribe so you don't miss those videos because i think understanding the why is just as important of understanding these sort of statements that i'm making so how much profit should you be earning in your business before baking uh the s corp election and in my view sort of the general is 40 000 and i'm defining profit here as revenue minus your expenses right so some of you earn your revenue by selling products others of you earn revenue by selling services right so either way i'm defining as profit as the income that you earn the revenue that you earn minus all your tax deductible expenses so um the reason for the forty thousand dollar figure and why i think that's sort of the um generic amount of profit you should make before making the s corp election is because of the additional cost associated with an s corporation so you're going to have uh tax preparation fees because the s corporation is a separate tax return than that of an individual uh that's taxed as a sole proprietorship let me say that one more time or a little bit differently when you have an s corp you have to fill out or file a s-corporation tax return which is different than when you were perhaps an llc tax as a sole proprietor or perhaps you didn't form an llc and you're just tacked to the sole proprietor there's now two separate tax documents that need to be filed and so cpa is going to charge you money to do that for you right also when you're in s corp you're going to need to take a quote-unquote reasonable salary per the irs there's a lot of paperwork that has to deal with paying yourself and so you'll likely hire a payroll service to perform that for you and also there's the annual maintenance of an s corporation or perhaps the annual reporting of an llc that's taxed as an s corporation or the annual reporting of a c corporation that's then taxed as an s corporation all of these are fees involved in having an s corp right and so basically you know it's cost benefit analysis so you want to make sure that these fees don't outweigh your tax savings and i have found that it's usually around the 40 000 mark where it makes sense to make that s corp election but you know it's not a one-size-fits-all answer and you should consult with your cpa or perhaps myself to make sure that it's right for you the second reason why you may not want to be taxed as an s-corporation is when you have high w-2 wages so if you are an employee at a company and also have um a small business right so you you work state of nine to five and you also have a side hustle where you might sell on amazon or you sell real estate on the side if your rate if your wages already exceed what's called the wage base which in 2020 is currently 137 700 that means your income has already hit the cap for social security taxes so the s corp strategy is not going to save you any money as a matter of fact you'll actually lose money if you elect the s corporation status for that business because your s corp will pay for the employer portion of social security and medicare taxes unnecessarily because if you're taxed as a sole proprietor you wouldn't have any of those additional payroll costs associated with the s corp and i i get it that you may not understand the details of what i'm saying here the important thing to note is that if your salary is a you know 137 000 at your day job or higher and you're also have a side hustle you might not want to be an s corp okay um again the details will be discussed in another video um there's still an opportunity for the s corp to make sense when your base wages are that high but instead of

Thanks Miquel your participation is very much appreciated
- Jonas Innis

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