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so in this video i want to cover partnership debts in an llc so this is an llc multi-member that's taxed a partnership so it hasn't elected to be an s corp or a c corp the reason why the categorization of debts is important is because debts in a partnership are added to a partner's outside tax basis in the entity and whether the recourse or non-recourse also impacts a partner's at-risk tax basis so just have one slide here i want to cover high level the difference between the non-recourse and recourse debts and some simple examples that illustrate uh when you might find one that's categorized as recourse versus non-recourse so a non-recourse debt is a partnership liability if no partner or person related to that partner bears the economic risk of loss okay so another recourse debt is a liability within the partnership and only the assets within the partnership can be used to pay off that debt and you find that definition in treasury reg section 1.752-3 so we look at an example here we have a fake consulting llc it's a four-member llc tax is a partnership the partnership has accounts payable at the end of the year uh totaling fifteen thousand right so uh the partnership is an accrual basis taxpayer it deducted all those costs so that 15 might be uh labor or supplies or office expense um right where they receive the goods and services but they just haven't paid the bill yet so they've got accounts payable at the end of year 15 000. um so these liabilities are non-recourse debts to the members uh because neither member is personally liable for the debts right so if these are all debts of third parties um let's say you know third-party vendors that you just owe money to the contracts between the vendor and the partnership um the vendor hasn't asked for any kind of personal guarantee from one of the owners the the vendor isn't a related party uh none of that applies so if that's the case then accounts payable is generally just a non-recourse liability for the entity um so now let's look at recourse debts here so a partnership liability is going to be a recourse that uh to the extent of partner or related person to that partner bears economic risk of loss okay and so again the the definition there is in 752-2 so if we look at an example here we have the same consulting llc four-member llc the partnership goes out and borrows 150 grand from a bank so it's a third-party bank and they need the money to finance the expansion of their business so the loan is an unsecured loan and that the partnership entity itself hasn't pledged any assets but every llc member that's an owner in the company uh had to sign a personal guarantee for the note okay um and this is incredibly common right banks know that if they loan money to an llc and the llc just collapses uh it's likely that um you know the banks can't get their money back and so what they do is to ensure that they can go after you know everybody to recover the loan they will require personal guarantees of owners of a small closely held company so not not uncommon at all so the liability in this context is going to be recourse debt to each partner because they've all signed this personal guarantee and so lastly here non-recourse debts can become recourse to an individual partner if the arrangement includes one of these following so if you have a partner that loans money to the partnership then that's going to be recourse debt to that partner because they bear the risk of loss if the partner is related to the party that loan the money it can become recourse and then lastly if a partner just steps in and guarantees the debt then that i also can make a recourse so you know if for example um the company needed to open a credit card let's say so the llc opens a credit card in its name and ein but in order to get it they the credit card company needed somebody's personal credit information social security number and a guarantee from that partner then in that context that personal uh that person would be it would be recourse debt to that partner because they had to step in and sign a guarantee for that credit card account for the llc another example here um fake consulting llc four member llc tax a partnership if one of the members loans 50 000 to the partnership right so that'd be the first point here right so if you have um what is otherwise a non-recourse debt because there's no personal guarantee in there but because this is a related party loan that llc member that loan the money it would be recourse debt to that lending partner because they are the creditor okay so that covers it i hope that was helpful if you have any questions please leave me a comment below and i look forward to seeing you again soon thank you
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- Clark Dethlefs, Staff Member
hello my name is kristina stanford and i will be presenting on allocation of liabilities and partnerships specifically recourse versus non recourse debt most businesses large or small rely on debt to continue operations especially early on the ability to secure debt can make the difference between staying in business or ceasing operations however liabilities are not just debt all debt is not created equal and that is what this presentation touches on recourse debt is debt in which the lender has legal recourse to collect the entire debt regardless of collateral value the partnership or at least one partner is personally liable for request at meaning that they may have to make up deficiencies on defaulted debts out of their own personal assets while other debt is considered non request at non recourse debt simply means that the borrower may have the debt collateral seized by the lender if they default but they are not personally liable for any deficiencies that arise from the default of this debt strictly from this point of view a borrower would therefore tend to prefer non-recourse debt while lender will prefer recourse debt in general non recourse debt typically requires the pledging of collateral defaulting on report status may result in lawsuits wage garnishments or seizures of other personal assets that were not even part of a loan in partnerships all general partners may face claims against their personal assets for recourse debt regardless of whether they guarantee the loan there are legitimate reasons for taking on reckless debt instead of non recourse debt including the fact that generally recourse debts may have more favorable favorable loan terms or interest rates so this is going to depend on your your specific risk factors if you are very confident that the risk of default is low you may be more willing to take on recourse debt as this will save the company money with lower interest rates or more favorable loan terms there is a subset to non recourse debt called qualified non-recourse financing which is usually bank or third-party issued debts on real estate except in cases of individual partners personal guarantees on recourse debt recourse debt is generally allocated to general partners only personal guarantees are treated as recourse debt to that specific partner a partner may not be a general partner but they can personally guarantee alone and that would be considered recourse debt to that specific partner non-recourse debt is allocated among all partners most x4 LLC's therefore our non-recourse since by definition partners in LLC's have no personal liability for the debts to the entity here we have allocation and some examples request debt is allocated among general partners in their law sharing ratios except in certain complex scenarios which this presentation is not delve into ABC partnership has three members a B and C let's assume for this example that all are treated as general partners a and B have a lost sharing ratio of 40% while C is a lost generation shield 20% let's assume that a partnership has recourse accounts payable of $100,000 therefore and B's allocation of the debt will be 40,000 each while C's will be 20,000 now for non reports debt this is allocated among all partners in accordance with their profit sharing ratios let's assume that ABC partnership has three members still losses are shared equally but profit sharing ratios are 45% for a 30% for B and 25% for C let's assume that this accounts payable of $100,000 was non-recourse therefore the allocation is 45,000 a partner a 30 thousand a partner B and 25,000 a partner C regardless of whether these partners are considered general partners to conclude allocations of liabilities can really make or break any business partners that are personally insolvent may be unable to invest or continue operations in partnerships that are unable to secure non-recourse debt the ability to secure recourse versus non recourse debt can have a huge impact on whether a partnership decides to continue operations or dissolve as far as resources go most of the information provided in this presentation is available in our textbook with a related ebook however I did also verify some additional information and credit Sesame comm at the link provided below which was mostly just some general information on recourse vs. non recourse debt not specific to partnership thank you and I hope you all have great day
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- Clark Dethlefs
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