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carlton should i buy real estate in my name should i buy real estate in my llc what happens if i don't have an llc when i buy real estate i don't even know like i can't even tell you that these are the typical questions that come up by most new real estate investors and it's totally fine to have these questions guys my name is carlton dennis welcome back to taxes made simple and today we'll be talking about whether or not it makes sense for you to buy real estate inside of your llc or if you should buy real estate in your personal name let's get started now in order to understand whether or not it makes sense to buy real estate in your personal name or to buy real estate in an llc we first have to understand what llcs are and what's the purpose of needing them for real estate so let's talk about that the first thing that we need to understand is what is an llc so let's get started an llc is a limited liability company you can either have a single member llc which is just one individual inside of this business structure or you can have a multiple member llc which is you and a partner or many partners either way an llc is a great vehicle for asset protection so let's talk about why real estate investors go down the road of wanting an llc if you didn't know when you decide to purchase rental real estate you go on the title of the property the title of the property is just showing who owns the asset one of the things that you need to know about when you own rental real estate is that your information can also be public information really that's correct when you invest in a rental property taxpayers and individuals can view that property and its data online by pulling it up through the county assessor's office at this point in time they can obtain information about the owner of the property and when that property has transitioned from title to title from one individual to another individual what this means is if you purchase that property in your own name the tenant who is living in your property can go access the information about you and look you up to know who you are what you do where you live and what is going on with your situation and to me and to many of my real estate investors that is a scary picture and not a picture that we want to have happen with our rental real estate so how do we avoid falling into a trap in a situation where tenants can have access to our information online and have the ability to look up how much money we make and can even decide based on looking at this information whether or not they want to pursue legal measures against something that could have happened at that problem now before we jump into the llc and how it protects you i want to go back into what happens when you don't have an llc many taxpayers get umbrella policy insurance so i first want to talk about what umbrella policy insurance is umbrella policy insurance is a type of personal liability insurance that covers claims in excess of regular homeowners auto or watercraft policy coverage umbrella policies is the most common type of insurance that you're gonna get when you become a homeowner however is umbrella policy insurance liability coverage we want to break this down today in the event that you go through a lawsuit your umbrella policy assurance is going to be able to cover incidentals maybe there are some damages that occurred at your property maybe there were some things that might have broke this is exactly what an umbrella policy insurance is for but the umbrella policy insurance does not protect your information on the county's assessor's office and it doesn't make you less viewable to the tenant that is living in your rental property what this means is is umbrella policy insurance can cover incidents and accidents that could happen at the rental property and can protect you but it doesn't protect you from the tenant deciding to sue you and pulling your information online and knowing who you are what this is the most important aspect that leads into many lawsuits when the tenants know the person they're suing they're more inclined to make a lawsuit against that person they can physically see and if they are able to obtain your information we are living in 2021 they can research your social media accounts they can research your businesses your family members and know exactly how much income you possibly could be sitting on in order to make sure that you're not only protecting your cash flow your family's wealth we want to make sure that we have an llc an llc separates the liability from yourself and from your business when you are getting sued without an llc technically everything is liable that you own if you have personal bank accounts personal checking accounts iras things of that nature that are sacred to you they are liable in the event of a lawsuit however in an llc you are only liable to the extent of what is inside of the llc the assets and the debts inside of the llc this is a powerful key difference so let's just say that we decided to set up an llc for our rental property how are we protecting ourselves from those who didn't have an llc when they decided to invest in rental real estate i don't know you gotta ask them i don't know you gotta ask these guys i don't know first thing that we have to understand is when you decide to invest with your llc you have now taken over the title of the property as a business owner that could have a name different than the name of you what this is going to do is this is going to provide some ambiguity this ambiguity protects you in the event that clients are looking up your information online through the county's assessor's office if they go online and see that rental legacy partner builders is owning this rental property they may be hesitant to file a lawsuit the reason why that these taxpayers and tenants are more hesitant to file a lawsuit is because they are less likely to win against a company that may be bigger than themselves think about psychology and and your own personal feelings if you knew that google apple corporation woodson corporation johnson and johnson corporation owned the building that you were living in would you try to sue that company knowing that you're gonna go in to win or do you think when you sue that company there's a probably a good likelihood that this could be a legal battle for you and the people on the other side of the table might have more money to fight you and this is what typically protects the llc investor the llc investor is protected because they are investing with their llc now you might have come to know that it's pretty hard to invest with your llc when you go into your mortgage lender i don't know the reason why it's hard to invest with an llc is because an llc may not have business credit yet and may not have income reports yet when you do not have credit or income reports flowing through your llc it is going to be very hard to qualify to get a loan underneath your llc your lender may not allow it seriously part of the reason why is you may not have established what's called a paydex score a paydex score is similar to a social security score e
Thanks for your comment Loriann Rodrique, have a nice day.
- Adalberto Prayer, Staff Member
you know perhaps the most common question I receive from BiggerPockets members is should I set up an LLC for my real estate business it's a good question because I'm sure you've heard the horror stories of landlords and other investors getting sued by tenants and losing everything you didn't spend years learning about real estate growing your portfolio and figuring out how to be an effective landlord only to lose it all to some deadbeat looking to gain the legal system right however LLC's are also highly misunderstood in the real estate space because they're just so darn complicated what works for one person might not work for you and what works for you might not work for me well I could give you like the simple answer of talk to an attorney I wanted to have a little bit deeper so you understand this of course I am neither an attorney nor CPA so please take what I'm saying as my own personal opinion and get a qualified person to help you with legal discussions all right well my name is Brandon Turner author of the book on rental property investing and a host of the BiggerPockets podcast and in this video I want to walk you through the world of real estate in LLC's of course if you like real estate content be sure to subscribe to our Channel and click that little thumbs up button below this video letting the world know that this here is a good one all right now this video can be divided into really like three general chunks first I'm gonna explain what an LLC is and why they're so popular second I'll explain the downsides of an LLC and why you might not want one and third I'll walk through some other options you have for protecting your assets okay first let's talk about what an LLC is and what it isn't an LLC is not a get out of jail free card you can be sued with an LLC and you can lose everything an LLC is not designed to prevent you from ever being sued an LLC is designed to help you manage and contain the fallout from that lawsuit so according to the United States Small Business Administration SBA a limited liability company is a hybrid type of legal structure that provides the limited liability features of a corporation and attacks efficiencies and operational flexibilities up a partnership according to the definition and LLC's benefits are threefold first limited liability if you were to get sued your liability then nor the damage to your wallet may be contained to the assets within the LLC not everything else you own in other words if an LLC is set up right and you get sued and lose the creditors problem won't be able to come and take your personal house to your car or garnish your w-2 job wages of course there are way as a judge might pierce the protection of an LLC and go after those things if every Iowa's not dotted and every T was not crossed all right the second part of the definition tax efficiency the LLC is fairly easy to handle during tax time especially if it's a single member LLC which basically means you own it or you and your spouse LLC's are known as pass-through entities which means the income and expenses flow magically through the LLC and are instead reported and paid by each individual member on their personal income statement there is no like corporate tax like a corporation may pay this can definitely make taxes easier and less expensive then let's say a big you know C Corp that's said while a single-member LLC does not require its own business tax return a multi-member LLC with partners does don't make that mistake now third operational flexibility an LLC is fairly flexible in terms of running it you don't need a thousand documents you don't need a bunch of stock issued it's fairly easy to set up fairly inexpensive depending on where you're at so it's easy to see why an LLC might be advantageous to a real estate investor I mean let's just say a tenant slips on the stairs BAM and broke their hip right the tenet decides to sue that landlord for neglect and the court sides with the tenant for whatever reason let's say your insurance doesn't cover all the legal penalties and you as the owner are required to pay five hundred thousand dollars out of pocket to the tenant ouch well if you own the property without an LLC the tenant could have your wages garnished and force you to sell all your properties and drive you to bankruptcy you probably end up eating cold beans out of a can under a bridge while pigeons sit on your shoulder it's not a fun place to be on the other hand if the owner of that property was Mainstreet Investments LLC then the LLC is the owner getting sued the courts could make you sell that property but they likely won't going to make you sell the other properties owned by other LLC's they won't take your primary residence you will be eating cold beans of course this example is a bit overdramatize and unlikely to happen and I actually don't mind eating cold beans but it does illustrate the fear that drives most investors to want an LLC however even though it sounds like it might be I might be encouraging you to go get an LLC right now hold your horses there are some other important factors to consider so LLC's can be awesome but let's talk about the problems with an LLC and real estate all right so LLC's are great I'm not gonna deny that however it might not be great for you there are some fairly important considerations to make before you jump into the LLC bandwagon that could affect your decision for example and maybe most importantly lending on an LLC is almost impossible for residential properties that's right if you plan on using a loan to acquire an investment property like a single or duplex triplex four-plex it's unlikely you can have an LLC on the property most residential lenders simply will not lend on a property inside of an LLC that makes you have to go to a commercial lender has higher fees higher rates shorter terms something you probably don't want to do now many investors simply transfer the ownership of the property into an LLC after purchasing the property in their own name but that does present some risks as well if the bank finds out and they probably will due to insurance reasons they get updated to that they might call your notdo because of the due on sale clause of course you didn't actually sell the property but you did transfer the title from one entity to your name to another your LLC now in the past this has never really been a problem as banks generally turn a blind eye to this but it seems it could change in the future and it's really only expected to get worse as interest rates go up so if you plan to go that route just I recommend speak with your bank get permission in writing to transfer the property into an LLC this is really the only way you'll be truly protected from that dreaded due on sale clause transferring from you to an LLC all right one other issue with an LLC will ask yourself what are you really protecting and spending all this time and energy doing new investors automatically think they need an LLC to protect themselves but when you're first starting out how much wealth do you really need to protect right then I mean think about it you've got a proper
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- Adalberto Prayer
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