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let's talk about the single member limited liability company and asset protection a lot of people online say that a single member llc doesn't give you any protection and they don't have what is called charging order protection okay so what is charging order protection okay if your llc is a brick wall you are on one side your personal life and on the other side of the brick wall is where your business assets are so someone sues your business your llc the lawsuit stays inside of the llc and can protect you from losing your personal assets on the other hand say somebody sues you personally charging order protection can prevent them from seizing your llc and anything that it owns hi i'm the business guy and today we're going to talk about the single member llc i've been in the asset protection field since 1991 our company started in 1906. we have attorneys on staff and are the nation's leading asset protection firm and if you're watching this on youtube please click the like button below and enter your comments and you can also click the subscribe button so when more videos come out like this you'll get notified so say your llc owns a building in los angeles or miami that pays you thirty six thousand dollars a year on positive cash flow say you rear in somebody's car and they sue you for more than your insurance coverage a daily event by the way you get a four hundred thousand dollar judgment against you so what can they take say they take your car seize your house depending on the state where you live empty your bank account but what about your llc there's a lot of chatter on the internet but if it's a single member llc they can run off and take it away from you that could be one million dollars in equity sitting in that building they say that someone will just prance over there and take your llc away from you and that's called a foreclosure action against your interest in the single member llc so what do we form the llc to begin with to protect our assets from lawsuits so if somebody sues your business the lawsuit doesn't jump over into your personal life that is whatever bad thing happens on the other side of the brick wall the bad thing stays over there and doesn't affect you and your family so if someone says your single member llc doesn't have charging order protection they may be right and it really depends on the state where you're in some states such as wyoming are favored in the u.s nevada delaware south dakota and alaska have laws that provide single member llc charging order protection and even stronger than wyoming is an offshore llc in the caribbean island of nevis that's nevis more about that later but first how does a charging order work say you live in florida or california a judge puts a charging order on your interest that is your portion of ownership in the llc he says okay if you take the 36 000 out of the llc and distribute it to yourself you actually have to pay that money to your creditor until the 400 000 judgment is paid off but they can't take the property away now it gets even better with charging order protection they can't make you take the 36 thousand dollars a year out of the llc so you can just leave the 36 000 in the llc and your creditor gets nothing okay you want even better revenue ruling 77-137 says that since your creditor has the right to receive the 36 000 a year they have to pay the taxes on the money whether they receive it or not that's right you heard me right the money stays inside of your llc but the judgment creditor has to pay your tax bill so instead of paying the money out of the llc you can just borrow that same money out of the llc that is take a loan from the llc or say you pay yourself a salary out of the llc that's not a distribution to members your creditor is going to blow a fuse but there is little if anything they can do about it the problem is in some states if the creditor doesn't get paid on the charging order they can foreclose on the llc so the judge can say hey mr creditor the llc is yours now so they sell your former building and they get paid but what about the single member versus multi-member llc stuff now in most states you need to have more than one member of an llc in order to have charging order protection but i think in about 17 states let's say you own one fourth of an llc and there are three other members the state law allows a creditor to foreclose on your one fourth interest of the llc so they foreclose on your interest in the llc and not the other people's interest so in that case having a multi-member llc won't give you much more protection than a single member llc and the state that provides foreclosure in their llc laws so for all this chatter about multi-member llc on the internet in order to have charging order protection that may just be hogwash it really depends on the state so you really want to make sure the state law reads that a charging order is as they say the exclusive remedy that your creditor has against your interest or ownership in the llc so what do we do what we do is this you create a holding company that is we set up one llc with strong asset protection laws that owns all of your other llc's that is when your property is in a state with weak asset protection you can still use that llc and that state to hold the property because of the lawsuit protection it gives you so remember the brick wall if your business is sued your local llc can protect you from your personal assets being taken in the business lawsuit but when somebody sues you personally that's when we need asset protection so somebody doesn't sue you and take your company away from you and everything that it owns such as the properties that are inside the company so next we set up an llc that owns your other llc's and you set that up in a place with strong asset protection laws such as wyoming or our very favorite the caribbean island of nevis your holding company llc owns your other llc's now you don't necessarily have your wyoming or nevis llc on the property because the llc operating that is owning property there will likely be subject to the local statutes so instead we set up an llc for you where the property is located and we set up another llc in wyoming or nevis that doesn't operate there that owns all of your other local llc's then boom your single member llc that owns your other llc's in the state that allows foreclosure on your interest in an llc is protected from lawsuits against you personally that is because you don't own the local llcs and that's because your out of state llc owns all of your local llc's so unlike florida california and about 43 other states the wyoming and nevis statute specifically spell it out even a single member llc has charging order protection so all those people out there with internet law degrees that tell you they need to have multi-member llc's in order to have charging oil protection well that may not be true know the statutes of your state but the key is set up a wyoming or nevis llc for yourself so you not only have more privacy because one you can honestly see that you don't own the llc's that owns your property your wyoming or nev
Thanks for your comment Emery Dunneback, have a nice day.
- Ernie Villandry, Staff Member
what's up everybody it's me Julien dual-career I'm back with another video this week we're getting into a juicy juicy topic we're getting into a detailed discussion about single member LLC's folks so many of you have single member LLC's or you're thinking about starting one and you know I don't want you to get tripped up or caught up so let's get into a detailed discussion about it this video might actually be longer than my usual video but hang tight get some wine or a glass or a beverage of your choice and let's talk hey there YouTube welcome back welcome back to all of my old subbies and if you're new here welcome and hello my name is Jolene dual Kadir you're watching my channel where we talk about cannabis business and entrepreneurship from a legal perspective this week we're getting into a detailed discussion about LLC's specifically single member LLC's I want to break this video down into multiple parts because I feel like having one comprehensive video that covers pretty much the general big topics versus having a bunch of little videos is a lot better I think it's more useful to you guys you guys can actually sit down for 15 to 20 minutes and actually watch the video and get the bulk of information from it rather than watching four or five smaller videos if you know what I mean I don't know let's just see how this goes I think I'm gonna break this down into five main areas or five topics of the video the first section that I actually want to tackle is what exactly a single member LLC is second is how you actually go about forming one third it's gonna be what you need to do after you've formed your LLC and fourth is going to be basic tax considerations for single member LLC's and then finally probably the most important part of this entire video is things that you need to avoid as a single member LLC in order to maintain that level of limited liability protection that an LLC gives you I'll get into that more later but let's just get started on the first part so if you have not subscribed to the channel already or you're new here please consider subscribing and supporting the channel I post new and actionable content on this channel weekly except from when there's a pandemic and there are riot but I totally get it again I post new and actionable content on this channel weekly so if you subscribe and then you turn on notifications you won't miss any of it ok so go down there and hit that red subscribe button alright so let's start off with the basics what is a single member LLC in the first place so a single member LLC is basically your traditional LLC but it just has one number so for many of you who have formed LLC's where you're the only member or you're the only owner you're likely to have a single member LLC so at any rate whether you are a single member LLC or a multiple member LLC you're given the same protection as any traditional LLC so single member LLC's or LLC's in general are a great option for you if you are a person that is in business by yourself and you don't necessarily want to be a sole proprietor or fall into the category of a sole proprietorship because of the potential risk that you are exposed to so LLC is a great option for you let's get into the second part of it which is how you actually form your single-member LLC if you've already formed your LLC then go ahead and skip ahead to the next section I left the timestamps down in the description box for you so click it and just jump ahead but if you haven't let's talk all right so once you've decided that you want to start a single-member LLC you're gonna go ahead and visit your state's Secretary of State website I have a link below where you can download an excel sheet with every single Secretary of State's website and phone number so you could find your state and just go navigate straight to their website you're gonna go there and you're gonna do a business name search or a business search and what that does is that it helps you to understand or see if anybody in the state has registered their business under the name that you would like to name your business if they haven't then you can go ahead and proceed with that name and go ahead and register in your state if they have you may have to come up with a variation or something that makes you a little bit your name a little bit more distinguishable from the other persons registered name so once you've cleared your name and everything set to go you'll want to go ahead and fill out your application and this is gonna be an application to file your articles of organization with your state in most states you can do this electronically so you go ahead and fill out everything online and then you submit and you pay a fee and then a lot of states they do it within 24 hours where you're able to access your articles of organizations immediately they go ahead and they approve the filing in some states it takes a couple of days some states it takes a couple of weeks so the processing times will vary just check with your states and then once you're all registered you'll want to go to the irs.gov website to apply for your federal tax ID there's also a link that will take you directly to the application there you will apply for your EIN that's what it's called your federal tax ID and during that process you'll input all of your business information where your business was formed what jurisdiction it was formed under and your personal information that ties the business to you once you submit that form this is really important tip don't have them send it to you via mail I don't know who does that anymore there's an option for you to get your EIN letter electronically by PDF go ahead and select that option to have it delivered electronically and it will download the PDF for you you can go ahead and save that to your computer your hard drive your special file or print it out and keep it with your corporate books you want to make sure that you keep that E is number in a safe place because you're gonna be using that ein to apply for your bank account to open accounts to apply for business credit cards for a bunch of things so don't lose that EIN number keep it with your formation documents in your books all right so the third section here is what do you do after you have formed your single-member LLC okay so remember in the last section we got our articles of organization and we also applied for our iin that was delivered electronically via the IRS website you saved it to your computer right right I'm watching okay so you'll take your articles of organization and you'll take your iin take copies of them and you'll go on down to your local bank where you want to open up your business bank accounts and go ahead walk in give them that information tell them you want to open a business bank account and they should be able to open one there for you depending on what industry you're in if you're in cannabis and CBD this will probably be a little bit more complicated for you reach out to me and I will assist you but if you're just a regular run-of-the-mill business this should be a very very simple step another thing you'll need to do
Thanks Kemberly your participation is very much appreciated
- Ernie Villandry
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I've studied steganography at North Dakota State University in Fargo and I am an expert in animal husbandry (animal science). I usually feel determined. My previous job was scientific linguist I held this position for 7 years, I love talking about amateur astronomy and genealogy. Huge fan of Mike OGMalley I practice artistic swimming and collect bicycles.
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