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in this video I'm going to tell you two important things you need to know before you buy eye bonds with a business or an LLC the first thing is that generally an LLC will protect your personal assets and separate them from your business assets but if you're buying I bonds with an LLC these become your business asset and if anything happens to your business or if someone places a judgment or tries to sue you or your business they could go after these I bonds the second thing is that the rates are decreasing they're going from 9.62 percent in October of 2022 to 6.48 November 2022 so this can make the calculation of whether or not it's worth it to buy them with an LLC a little bit more difficult in the last video we talked about some of the basics of I bonds and I'll put it up right here but just in case let's recap some of the most important parts the first thing to keep in mind is that you can't withdraw this money for the first 12 months so you want to make sure this isn't money that you have for emergencies this is money that's laying around not doing anything else that you want to earn some interest on the next thing is that the rates change every six months and so inflation goes lower the rates are going to go lower and the last thing is that there's a ten thousand dollar limit per person per year which is why it can make buying I bonds with an LLC an attractive option if you want to go over that ten thousand dollar limit so now that we've talked about some of the pros and cons of buying I bonds within LLC I'm going to log into my treasury direct account and show you guys exactly how to buy them with an LLC and so if you're buying I bonds with an LLC or an entity you're going to need a new account that's separate from your individual account so first click on open new account and then down here for apply now and then so you can see individuals up here and then we're going to pick what business organization that we have here I have an LLC so that's what I'm going to fit and then so this process is going to be a little bit different than when we were doing it with an individual account the first thing is that you're going to need an EIN or an entity taxpayer identification number and so if you don't have one of these you should get this when you open your business but in case you don't have one you can actually apply for one right here with the IRS I'll put a link down in the description below and so you just put that information in here and the second most important thing here is this IRS name control and so this letter that the IRS is going to send you with your EIN it's going to have the four characters that you're going to need and put right here so make sure that you keep that letter from the IRS and the next most important thing on here is that you're going to have to put your taxpayer identification number here and this is for the account manager so this will generally be you if you have a single member LLC which is what I have and so what you're going to do here is actually put your Social Security number so we can see here that if we go to the irs's website and we look for taxpayer identification number what they actually say is that a single member LLC is a disregarded entity and so generally the owner's social security number is used for tax returns and everything like that now that being said it's always important to talk to your lawyer talk to your accountant this is not Financial advice this is just something that I'm doing and I'm showing you guys the process right now so we can come back here and fill out all of this information and once you're done with that you can just go ahead and click submit at which point they'll probably send you an email a confirmation and then you can log in and actually find the icons all right so now I'm logged into my account as you can see this looks pretty much the same as the individual account and to go ahead and actually buy them and just go ahead to buy direct click on series I submit and again you pick the amount you want you pick the bank account that it's from and you can even do a scheduled purchase if that's what you want to do for the purpose of this video I'm just going to call it 100 worth of ibombs and got my bank account there click submit and then you want to go through and make sure that you read through all of this information very carefully but it is basically saying that there's a ten thousand dollar limit per person and any excess will be in violation and will be refunded to um but yeah make sure you read through this carefully talk with your lawyer talk with your accountant um but I'm going to go ahead and click proceed and make sure all of this information is correct here click submit and that's it confirmation 100 purchase just like that that was pretty easy uh one reason that I only purchased a hundred dollars right now is because I'm actually looking into some other options there are short-term treasury bills which have some pretty attractive rates it only locks up your money for about four weeks so if you guys are interested in that I'll post another video just like that thanks for watching if you enjoyed the video please give it a thumbs up subscribe I'll see you next time foreign
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- Kurtis Kingson, Staff Member
so this week's ibond video is about how to buy an i-bond for your business via treasury direct and the most frequently asked questions business owners have about doing this because let's face it where else can you get 7.12 on an annualized basis on something as safe as a 30-year us government savings bond during these uncertain times hi guys it's jennifer here with diamond estate and yes for those of you following our ibon and inflation series i've bought even more eye bonds since the last videos this time i maxed out our annual i bond limit of ten thousand dollars for diamond nesting and that's in addition to all the i bonds we've purchased for our personal portfolio you can buy i-bonds regardless of whether you're an llc pllc s corp partnership or sole proprietor for example even if you're a freelancer or contractor say for amazon grubhub uber or fiverr this means you could buy ten thousand dollars this year for your llc and any other business entities you might own in addition to your personal annual i bought limit of ten thousand dollars plus up to five thousand dollars with your personal tax refund by the end of this video you'll know what you should do before you buy i-bonds for your business how to buy i-bonds for your business as well as the most common questions business owners have about buying i-bonds for their business now if you're interested more in buying i bonds as an individual or for your children or even how to buy more than your annual i bond purchase limit of ten thousand dollars entirely legally then check out all of our other ibon tutorials on the channel i've linked them all below first register your business you can either do this by your state as is the case typically with an llc s corp dba or equivalent some cities and counties also require a business license and even if your sole proprietor freelancer or contractor as i mentioned earlier who typically reports your business income via schedule c when you file your personal taxes you should still try to get some form of dba or local business license before you buy ibots for your business the reason for this because such a registration and or license proves that your business exists that it's an actual business and therefore a separate entity from you an individual even if you own all or part of that business the business is the business and you are you that's a fundamental business tenant now if you don't actually have a business or a side gig i wouldn't go out and start setting up a dba or multiple dbas just to buy ibons in new york it costs between 50 and 125 to set up a dba and even more if you're registering as an llc or corporation plus there's all the additional paperwork taxes and maintenance you need to deal with not worth the effort and time in my mind even for i bonds and i don't say this lightly because we love our ibots right now second set up a separate business bank account just as a business is a separate entity from you your business finances and investments should be separate from your personal finances and investments and when you buy an ibond for your business make sure that the money comes from your business bank account not your personal one set boundaries don't make things messy and mix business and personal together this will be a lifesaver if you ever get questions from treasury direct or the irs also remember that any i bonds your business buys cannot be redeemed in the first 12 months the government simply won't give you your money back so make sure you're buying i bonds for your business with excess cash that your business will not need for the next year and if your business redeems its ibons in the first five years it will lose the last three months of interest just like any private investor once you have these two things in place it's time to set up your business account at treasury direct and buy the first i bond for your business and yes you can only buy ibonds via treasury direct not by your traditional bank or broker like a fidelity vanguard or the like but don't worry the process only takes about five to ten minutes worth it in my mind for 7.12 annualized yield on something as safe as a us government savings bond in the current market a business like an individual can buy up to ten thousand dollars of ibons per year via treasury direct if you own several different businesses you can buy ten thousand dollars per business so long as each business has that amount of cash sitting in its bank account you would however have to open up a separate business account at treasury direct for each of your businesses treasury direct refers to business accounts as entity accounts so what you'll need to do first is go to the us treasury website and open an account assuming you don't have one already then click on treasury direct under individual personal what's going to pop up next is this page showing you the three-step process for setting up an account in step one you have to choose the type of account you're opening step two will require you to input your personal business and banking information and step three is around setting up your password password reminder and security questions scroll down and click on apply now so what you're going to do now is select the type of entity account you're going to open depending on how your business is set up choose either corporation partnership llc pllc or sole proprietorship then click submit on the next screen you'll see that i selected llc because that's how diamond nested is set up now enter your business name and give your account a name as well scroll down a bit now here and fill in your business's ein or employer identification number if your business has an ein you'll also have to fill in your business's irs name control in this case you can typically find your business's irs name control on the same document that you first received from the irs informing you that you were assigned an ein and what that ein is if your business does not have an ein for example if you're a sole proprietor then enter your social security number instead you'll also need to type in the first four characters of whatever last name is associated with your social security number next fill in your business address below that you'll have to enter some personal information for whoever is managing this business treasury direct account including their contact address phone number email address and mailing address everything that is marked with a red asterisk is required now complete the bank account information for your business this bank account should be the one that your business is using to fund its ipod purchase with now read through this section check this box to certify that you agree with everything that stated there and click submit this will take you to the next screen the entity account application review where you should double check that all the information you've entered for your business is correct including the account manager contact information and your business bank information scroll down read through this section and submit if you agree with everything and there's nothing to correct or go back and ed
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- Kurtis Kingson
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I've studied policy analysis at Monroe College in The Bronx and I am an expert in gerontology. I usually feel quixotic. My previous job was insurance estate planner I held this position for 2 years, I love talking about book restoration and ode. Huge fan of Jennifer Aniston I practice rugby and collect beanie babies.
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