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we're going to talk about how to change your llc tax status to a corporation or s corporation your financial advisor or tax professional may have told you the potential benefits if you decide to have your llc file an election to be taxed as either a corporation or an s-corporation and this video discusses the benefits and process of filing such an election and the correct forms to use for making this election now the purpose of this video is to provide general information only before you take any action on anything covered in this video get the advice of a licensed tax professional such as a cpa and that was called my cya cover your you know the rest now if you change the llc's tax status to a corporation or an s corporation the legal status of the llc remains the same in other words you still function as an llc in every way such as the legal protection that it provides the only real difference is how it pays taxes how an llc is usually taxed by default a limited liability company llc is not recognized by the irs as a taxing entity so how the members pay tax is based on how many members that it has a single member llc is treated as a sole proprietorship or disregarded entity on the member's personal tax return a multiple member llc is treated for tax purposes as a partnership so your cpa will typically file a 1065 partnership tax form and the partners get the k1 form to attach to and report income or losses on their personal tax returns now both single member and multiple member llcs may elect to be treated as corporations or s corporations for income tax purposes and if you do have a single member llc there is a dating app for that so you can find a partner and live happily ever after electing corporation versus s corporation status now the process of changing the tax status of an llc to a corporation or s corporation is called making a tax election the two processes are different to elect corporation status one must file the irs form 8832 entity classification election for the llc to elect s corporation status the llc must file irs form 2553 election by small business corporation now back in the old days we would file the 8832 form and choose corporation taxation afterwards we would file the 2553 form and choose s-corporation election the irs website says that two-step process is no longer necessary an s-corporation is a corporation tax classification not a separate type of business a business that is already a corporation files the form 2553 to elect to be treated as an s-corporation llc is electing to be taxes corporations filing the form 8832 if you want your llc to be taxed as a corporation you must file the form now here are some things you need to know about this election this form allows eligible entities to file this election and llcs are by definition eligible entities this form also includes a consent statement which may be signed by all of the llc members or by one member on behalf of all the members if one member signs there must be some record in company membership meetings that all members approve to this election you must provide the names and identifying numbers of the owners such as the social security numbers for single member llcs and employer ids for multi-member llc's now the first section helps you to determine the eligibility of your business to apply for this change the second section asks you to select the current entity type and the type you are selecting the terms domestic and foreign in this section have to do with the state or country where the business is registered by the way llcs are disregarded entities or partnerships by default depending on how many members so no need for an 8832 to keep it that way but with an offshore llc you do need to elect disregarded entity or partnership status with the 8832 form the last section includes a consent statement and requires signatures single owner llcs and forms 8832 if your llc has only one member a single member llc the options noted on the form are to be classified as an association or be disregarded as a separate entity an llc with only one owner can be classified as a disregarded entity now this designation means the llc is not separate from the owner for income tax purposes filing business income taxes on schedule a c as part of the owner's personal tax return there is nothing you need to do to have this classification and for that matter i could use a classy vacation i'm thinking barcelona maybe the bahamas now if you checked no in box three because you don't have more than one owner you will need to give the owner's name and identifying number taxpayer id number then in part one box six you would check box c a domestic eligible entity with a single owner electing to be disregarded as a separate entity or box f a foreign eligible entity llc electing to be taxed as an s corporation in the same way as a corporation elects corporation tax status an llc may elect s corporation tax status by filing irs 2553 with the irs this election must be made with no more than two months and 15 days after the beginning of the tax year when the election is to go into effect so why elect s-corporation status the other tax option for your llc is to elect to be taxed as an s-corporation your llc will need to meet the eligibility requirements of an s-corporation both the llc by default and the s-corporation status are pass-through entities meaning that the income of the business passes through to the owners s-corporation status has two benefits first it allows the business to avoid the double taxation issue of corporations double taxation is taxing the c corporation on its income and then taxing the shareholder on its dividends in fact my grandmother once said harold when i touch the refrigerator and the stove at the same time i get shocked my grandfather replied well don't touch them both at the same time then along those same lines one way around the double taxation with the c corporation is to just pay a salary to the owners the salary is tax deductible to the corporation and simply don't pay dividends now s corporation officers who work for the business are considered employees they are not considered self-employed and they don't pay self-employment taxes social security and medicare on distributions of profits to the shareholders of the s corporation this can be a tremendous tax saving for those owners but it is very important to know that they must be paid a reasonable salary in addition to the distributions and pay income taxes social security and medicare on the salary portion of their income if you want your llc to be taxed as an s corporation you just need to file the form 2553 you don't need to elect to be taxed as a corporation first like we used to do in the old days form 2553 is similar to form 8832 above with some differences the election begins on a specific tax year and you must select the type of tax year including the fiscal year or financial year form 2553 discusses shareholders but your llc probably doesn't have shareholders in this case you should enter the percentage of ownership and the date acquired a single owner llc would have 100 of the ownership
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- Vernie Gab, Staff Member
welcome back to taxes made simple i'm your host carlton dennis and in today's video i'm going to teach you guys how to switch your llc's to s-corporations if you currently have an llc or if you believe you have outgrown it and you're ready to make the switch to an s-corp and look no further than this video this is the perfect video to learn how you can grow out of your llc to switching into an escort i'm going to tell you everything you need to know about making the switch how to upgrade to the s corporation what you need to avoid some of the mistakes and pitfalls that i've seen other cpas do when they're making the selection for their clients so that way you can get the approval that you're looking for in the time you need it so let's dive in now the first thing we're talking about is why make the switch in the first place to be quite frank we talk about llc's all the time on this channel and switching over to an escort is something that you are probably going to do eventually by following some of this information i'm teaching you the main reason why switching from an llc to an s corp is going to be beneficial for a lot of you taxpayers is because it can help you save serious money on self-employment taxes okay llc owners are forced to pay hefty self-employment taxes on all of their businesses income that's 15.3 percent and they cover social security and medicare so if you have a hundred thousand dollars annually of income and if you're making this money through an llc than taxpayer you're paying 15 300 in self-employment tax somebody please take the dagger out of my backs i'm bleeding okay but if you switch to an s corp on the other hand you'll have to only take a reasonable salary for a portion of the income and the rest of the income can be flowed over as distributions only subject to federal and state taxes when you do this you only have to pay self-employment tax on the money you chose to pay yourself the portion of salary for the distribution person you'll just pay ordinary income taxes but these taxes are significantly lower and the reason why we're doing this video is to express that so for example you were still making a hundred thousand dollars a year but you switched over to an s corp you could take a reasonable salary for forty thousand and take the other sixty thousand dollars in distributions in this case you would only have to pay self-employment tax fifteen point three percent on the forty thousand and you could pay ordinary income taxes on the other sixty thousand that you took in distributions and that's going to save you thousands of dollars in the process oftentimes when llc owners switch their business structures from llcs to s corporations the tax savings are immense they're so immense that sometimes it's the only strategy we end up doing in the first year for some clients then we end up leveraging all the other strategies like the home office the car the children because it's such a powerful change for a business owner it could be so worrisome so cumbersome to have to pay self-employment tax year over year over year with no one telling you how to avoid it it's like literally having a plastic bag over your neck and you're trying to breathe it's so hard as a business owner to grow when you're constantly paying so much in taxes this is a part of the reason why majority of business owners schedule consultations with my firm they want to get that first question answered like when do i switch to the s corporation now that i'm in the s corporation carlton what kind of fun can i have and that's when i start leveraging all the strategies for clients switching to an escort from an llc also has a number of other benefits such as allowing business owners to contribute higher amounts to tax deferred retirement accounts every year now this can help you set yourself up more comfortably for retirement which is a great benefit but it also can help set you up for saving more money on taxes at the same time when you're trying to switch from an llc to an s corp you have to understand the steps or you could fall out of compliance so let's talk about it the first thing you need to know about making the switch is that not all llc's are eligible to switch to an s corporation okay your llc will only be eligible to switch to an escort if you have less than 100 shareholders if your llc is based in the united states and only has one class of stock being offered if your llc doesn't meet all of these requirements you are out of luck however if your llc does meet these requirements great we can move forward with the process here switching over to an s corp is where we'll start saving some money so let's talk about the good news the good news is that switching to an s corp is actually pretty straightforward guys it's not that hard in fact you can do it all by yourself you don't need a tax professional filing in form 2553 election by a small business once this form is filled out you will also have to have it signed by all shareholders of the business and officers of the company before filing it with the state and with the irs the deadline for making the switch if you're planning to make the switch from the llc to the s corporation needs to be done prior to the end of the year and actually needs to be done prior to march 15th what this means taxpayer is that if you want your business to be classified as an s corp for a given tax year then you'll have to file form 2553 by march 15th of that year so for example if you want your business to be categorized as an s corp and take a payroll deduction and not pay 15.3 percent on a full 100k in the example i gave you would have to have that submitted by march 15 2022 for the tax year 2022. now i know a lot of people who are watching this video are like carlton why would you put this video out if we're already patched march 15. what does this mean for me am i too late no you're not taxpayer we're going to talk a little bit more about the situation you fall into once you're past the march 15 deadline what can you do to make sure you're being still switched over to an escort if you missed the march 15 deadline and still want to switch from an llc to an escort then you can file what's called a late s election in order to do this you will still have to fill out and file form 2553 with all the appropriate signatures that i've discussed at the top of the form you're going to have to put write down filed pursuant to rev proc 2013-30 when you include these words unless the irs knows that you will switch to an s corporation even though you missed the deadline it's the late s election process now you need to know that just because you file the latest election form does not necessarily mean the irs has to approve the late switch there are a number of rules that you must also follow to do the latest election properly and to have your switch actually be approved by the irs the irs requires all of the following things for latest elections the entity intended to be classified as an s corporation and it must be an eligible entity it must have failed to qualify as a nest corp solely because the election was not timely
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- Vernie Gab
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