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i just got something in the mail it's kind of interesting so i recently applied for an llc i paid my dues to the secretary of state and i got my receipt on the same day in another envelope i got something from the idaho certificate service and they want me to fill out a certificate of existence form which i don't know what that was at the time all i know is they wanted to check for 73.50 so i could get a certificate for something that i'm pretty sure already existed going over the form the last straw for me was the email domain it was a dot com not a dot gov so they're clearly a private business with no ties to the government they're just doing some sort of bureaucratic gymnastics i think to try and seem like a legitimate filing agency the scummy part about this is that there's probably a lot of people who do send that check this arrived the same day as my receipt from the secretary of state and even has a little fake due date on the form probably to rush you so you don't take any time to do extra research to make sure that it's legit not gonna lie it almost got me but thanks to going on google and just looking it up to make sure i saw some better business bureau complaints and stuff like that and i quickly found out that it is just a scam also just for fun i decided to go to the website associated with their email and you get a forbidden error which is yeah that's really official so if it didn't seem like enough of a scam already they don't even have a working website and since we're on the subject of investigation i decided to look up the address that i was supposed to send this check to and it goes to the postal annex in boise it looks like it goes into maybe some sort of po box or something or whatever the postal annex's version of a po box is it just happens to be very convenient that the postal annex is located on a street called federal away because that really does kind of give it some extra subconscious credibility and i can see a lot of people uh falling for it just by seeing that and thinking that oh federal must be some government building and finally i noticed on the forum there is a phone number that you can call which is interesting i just want to see what they have to say so here's the video i got two seven three eight all right hello thank you for calling certificate services your company are you calling on behalf of them i'm just gonna skip ahead because it took me a couple seconds they wanted my company name and i told them no so then i asked them what the certificate of existence actually was about and here's their explanation yeah same thing okay our certificate of good standing yeah it's a certificate it's issued by the secretary of state and it's physical proof that your company is current and legally allowed to do business in the state um it may be asked of you at a bank they'll ask for this certificate if you're opening up a business account or if you're opening up apply for a business loan or certificates different business license in your city okay um and so a certificate of existence is necessary to operate as a business no it's not no it's not necessary okay um and is it is it necessary to run it as to open a bank account or is it just can be used you can open up a business bank account but some banks ask ask you for this certificate of status in order to do so some don't some do okay so yeah the certificate of existence thing is pretty clearly a scam you don't really need it to do anything i'm in the process of opening a business banking account they haven't mentioned one thing about a certificate of existence there's no reason for this to exist they are just trying to capitalize off of confusion i don't know how this operation hasn't been shut down yet maybe they just create a new business every single time they get caught and they're just kind of like a fly-by-night scam operation or something like that they're just trying to get free money from people who are confused so there it is the certificate of existence scam so the moral of the video even if something looks legit it never hurts to do a little bit of research look up the phone number look up the website we have all these tools to help avoid scams never hurts to do a little bit of research so anyways thanks for watching and stay safe
Thanks for your comment Micah Dragos, have a nice day.
- Rosanne Zeegers, Staff Member
hi my name is maisie and i am with northwest registered agent i am going to talk about llc membership certificates what they are how to fill one out and if your llc needs one llc membership certificates are official documents issued to each llc member for llcs that have multiple members they act as an official record to show each member's percentage owned of the llc and act similarly to the way that stock shares do for corporations they are a very important part of the record-keeping process for your llc when it comes time to fill out the llc membership certificate for your llc here's how you can do that an llc membership certificate is an internal document so it's something that is completed by the llc members and is not required to be filed with the state even though it is not something that is required by the state it is still a very important internal document that you want to have to practice good record keeping for your llc and you want to be sure that you are including all of the necessary information in the document you can typically find a blank llc membership certificate as your business supply store or you can download the free template that we have on our website if you have any questions about your llc membership certificate and if you need one please do not hesitate to give us a call or send us an email as we are more than happy to help you
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- Rosanne Zeegers
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I've studied ecological systems theory at University of California, San Diego in San Diego and I am an expert in systems engineering. I usually feel listless. My previous job was retail customer service representative I held this position for 11 years, I love talking about rughooking and roller derby. Huge fan of Clive Owen I practice windsurfing and collect steiff teddy bears.
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